These are the
excerpts from a historical document, diary of NKVD special-service
officer, senior lieutenant Tarabrin, who spent several days with
captured German generals and wrote down their dialogues.
NKVD Officer on Gen. Paulus, excerpts from the
diary
Below are excerpts from historical document, a diary of NKVD
special-service officer, senior lieutenant Tarabrin, who spent
several days with captured German generals and wrote down their
dialogues.
F. Paulus - During 1942 - 1943 commanded over 6th Army.
Gen. of Armored Forces. since January 1942, General-oberst since
November 1942, General Field Marshall since January 1943. Prisoner
of war in USSR during 1943 - 1953.
A. Schmidt - During 1942 -
1943, chief of staff of the 6th Army, Gen.-Major since 1942,
Gen.-Lieutenant since 1943. Prisoner of war in USSR during 1943 -
1955.
V. Adam - 1st adjutant of Paulus, colonel. Prisoner of war
in USSR during 1943 - 1948.
February 3, 1943
I came to Paulus, Schmidt and Adam at 11 a.m. They were
sleeping when I came in. Paulus woke up and nodded to me. Schmidt
also wakes up.
Schmidt: "Good morning, have you seen any dreams?"
Paulus: "What dreams can a captured Field Marshall see?
Adam, you started shaving already? Leave me some hot water."
They shave and wash themselves. Then they have breakfast and
smoke their usual cigars. Yesterday Paulus was at the interrogation,
and it seems he is still under impression.
Paulus: "Strange people. They ask captured
soldier about operational matters".
Schmidt: "It's useless. No one of us will tell them
anything. It's not 1918, when everybody thought that Germany is
separate from its government and army is separate from both. We
are not going to make that mistake again".
Paulus: "I agree with you, Schmidt".
They keep silence for quite some time. Schmidt goes to bed, and
falls asleep. Paulus goes to bed too. Adam takes out his note-pad
with Russian words, reads and repeats. Then he goes to bed too.
Suddenly Yakimovitch arrives and proposes generals to visit
bath-house. Paulus and Adam agree, Schmidt after short hesitation
(he's afraid to catch cold), decides to join them. It was Paulus who
finally convinced them by saying that Russian bath-houses are very
healthy and it's always hot in them. All the four went to bath
house. Generals and Adam took the car, Hein on a truck. HQ security
officers went with them. They returned in an hour and a half, all in
a very good mood. They exchange opinions on advantages of Russian
bath-houses before others. They wait for the dinner so that they
could get some sleep afterwards. In the meantime, several cars
approach the building. Head of the intelligence service Gen.-Major
Vinogradov with interpreter enter the room and says to Paulus that
he'll meet German generals who were also captured by Red Army. While
interpreter is talking, Vinogradov tells me they planned to make a
documentary footage of captured generalship (on a side note, parts
of this footage are included in one of the Stalingrad cut-scenes).
Although Paulus, Schmidt and Adam are a bit disappointed that they
will have to get outside after the bath, they dress up quickly to
meet other generals. They don't know yet that they will be filmed.
Schmidt and Paulus leave the building, cameramen shoot first
frames.
Paulus: "This is not necessary"
Schmidt: "This is just disgusting" (both turn away from
cameras)
They take their seats in cars and proceed to neighbor building,
where other generals wait. From the other direction, another car
with captured generals arrive with Gen.-Colonel Geitz and the rest.
They meet each other, cameramen around are shooting. Paulus shakes
hands with all generals, tells them: "Hello my friends, please show
your dignity and high spirit". Shooting continues. Generals split up
in groups and chat. Mostly, they talk about who is present at this
meeting and who is not.
Central group - Paulus, Geitz, Schmidt. Cameramen are shooting
them. Paulus remains calm. He looks straight into the camera.
Schmidt looks nervous, tries to turn away. When one energetic
cameraman approaches too close, he gives a fiendish smile and closes
lens with a hand. Seems like the shooting doesn't bother the rest of
the generals. However, some of them try not to be filmed together
with Paulus. One colonel nervously walks back and forth, repeating:
"It's alright, it's alright. Everyone is alive, and that's what
matters most". Nobody pays any attention. The shooting is over.
Generals are leaving. Paulus, Schmidt and Adam return home.
Schmidt: "Well, that's quite much fun, I should say. Now
we are going to catch cold for sure, after this bath-house. They
did it on purpose to get us ill."
Paulus: "This shooting is disgusting. What a shame!
Marshal (Voronov) doesn't seem to know about it, that's for sure.
What a dishonor! But there's nothing we can do, we are POWs ".
Schmidt: "I hate German journalists, and here we go with
Russian ones! Horrible!".
They interrupt conversation because of dinner. They praise the
cuisine. Their mood picks up. After dinner, they sleep almost until
supper. Again they like the food. After supper, they smoke in
silence, watch rings of smoke. Sound of shattering glass from the
other room. Hein has broken a sugar bowl.
Paulus: That's Hein. What a clumsy teddybear!
Schmidt: "He is all thumbs. I wonder how did he steer a
wheel. Hein! Have you ever lost a steering wheel?".
Hein: "No, Lieutenant General. But I was in a different
mood back then".
Schmidt: "Your mood is your mood, but utensils is
utensils. And it's not ours either".
Paulus: "He was a favorite of Field Marshal Reihenau,
who died on his hands".
Schmidt: "By the way, how did he die?".
Paulus: "It was a heart attack after a hunt. Hein,
deliver us the details".
Hein: "That day we went hunting with Field Marshal. He
was in a very good mood and felt good. He was having a lunch, I
brought him coffee. That was when that heart attack happened. HQ
doctor said we had to get to Leipzig to some professor
immediately. We found a plane in no time. Took off, four of us:
Field Marshal, pilot, doctor and I. The course was set for Lvov.
After an hour, he died right in the plane. It was very unlucky
flight, more misfortunes were ahead. In Lvov, pilot tried to land,
but then took off again. We made two circles over the airstrip.
When he tried to land for the second time, he went by the wind,
against all rules. So we crashed into one of the airport
buildings. I was the only survivor".
Everybody is silent for about an hour. They smoke and reflect on
something. Finally Paulus raises his head.
Paulus: "I wonder what the news are".
Adam: "I guess Russians are advancing. They can do that
now".
Schmidt: "And what's next? That's a big question! I
believe this war will end suddenly, like it started. It won't be a
military victory, it would be all about politics. It's clear for
now that we can't defeat Russians, but they can't defeat us
either.
Paulus: "Politics is none of our business. We are
soldiers. Marshal asked me yesterday why we were struggling
without ammo and supplies, in desperate situation? I said I had my
orders. Whatever the situation is, orders are orders. We are
soldiers. Discipline, orders, obedience, that's the core of the
army. He agreed with me. And it's ridiculous after all, as if I
was in position to change something. By the way, Marshal leaves
very goof impression. He is intelligent man. He understands the
situation pretty well. He asked Schlefer about the 29th Regiment,
where no one was captured. He memorizes even minor details".
Schmidt: "Well, the fortune is skittish". Paulus:
"It's good we don't know our fate beforehand. If I knew I would be
a Field Marshal and then become prisoner of war... You know, I'd
call such a play in theatre a bullshit.
They prepare to go to bed.
February 4, 1943
Morning. Paulus and Schmidt are still in their beds. Adam enters
the room. He already shaved himself. He stretches out his left hand,
says "Heil!".
Paulus: "Memorizing a roman greeting, this means that
you, Adam, have nothing against me. You have no weapon.
Adam and Schmidt laugh.
Schmidt: "It sounds like "morituri te salutant" in
latin.
Paulus: "They were just like us".
He takes out a cigarette.
Schmidt: "Don't smoke before meal, it's bad for your
health".
Paulus: "It's okay, being a prisoner is much worse".
Schmidt: "You must be patient".
They get up. Morning toilet, breakfast. Major Ozerianski arrives
from intelligence department, for Schmidt. They want to
interrogate him.
Schmidt: "Finally they are interested in me too". (He
felt a bit offended that they didn't want to interrogate him
earlier).
Schmidt leaves. Paulus and Adam go to bead. Smoke, then
they have a nap. They wait for a dinner. Schmidt returns in a
couple of hours.
Schmidt: "Same questions. Why we resisted, refused to
capitulate and so forth. It was difficult to talk, the interpreter
was bad. She hardly understood me. And I didn't understand her
either. The final question was how do I estimate operational art
of Russians and Germans. I refused to answer, I said it could be
an ill service for my motherland. Such questions should be posed
after the war.
Paulus: "That's right. I said the same thing".
Schmidt: "It's getting aggravating. Don't they
understand that no German officer would go against his country".
Paulus: "It's simply impolite to pose this kind of
questions before us soldiers. No one is going to answer them now".
Schmidt: "Don't forget about propaganda, they say we
should do it for the country, against the government. As I said
earlier, only fools in 1918 separated people from the government.
Paulus: "Propaganda remains propaganda anyway. They
don't even have an objective course.
Schmidt: "Is there an objective interpretation of
history? Of course not. Take the beginning of the war for example.
Who started it? Who is in charge? Why start it? Who can answer?"
Adam: "Only archives, many years after".
Paulus: "Soldiers remain soldiers. They fight because of
the call of duty. They don't think about reasons, they only reason
for them being loyalty oath. The beginning and the end of war is
politics' business, they act as the situation on the front
dictates them.
Then they started talking about the history of Greece, Rome and
so on. They speak about the art and archeology. Adam tells about
expeditions he took part in. Schmidt, talking about the pictorial
art, says competently that best German artist is Rembrandt (?!),
because Netherlands, Holland and Flanders are all "old German
provinces". They speak up until the supper and go to sleep
afterwards.
On February 5 morning I received an order to return back to the
department for redeployment. My stay with generals is over.